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Old August 23rd, 2002, 05:59 AM
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Hi All!

Effect Online, LLC Announces changes to its virtual packages.

Our goal as a service provider is to give you the best experience possible, from super fast servers to extra friendly support. We'd like to welcome you to try out our packages, and if your not satisfied for any reason within the first 30 days we'll give you a full refund.

Just a few details about the service.

Your hosting accounts will be placed on the following server:

Dual Athlon MP 2000's with two 36gb scsi's in a raid1 (mirrored) configuration and 2gb of ram. Your data is backed up to a separate ide disk

within the server. Within a month or two we will be adding a separate tape backup system, which will be the third and final layer of backups for your data.

We will place no more than 300 accounts per server and will always have no less than one spare server on hand for client expansion so that we

place no more than the targeted amount of clients onto the server. We understand the need to keep your site online 24/7 so we take no chances with our servers.

We keep a hot spare on hands at all times so we can have the server back up and operational within 30mins or less of any hardware failure by just swapping the drives out into the spare sitting ready.

We are located directly in the NAC datacenter which has over 72 peering arrangements with various providers. We don't play around when it comes to keeping your website well connected. We only use quality multi-homed bandwidth for our services.

As well as offering cpanel with all of our packages we offer instant setups upon clearance of your initial payment and a billing/support interface so you can see past and due invoices and make payments. We follow the policy of not keeping your credit card information on file as it is an un-necessary risk.

All servers are monitored 24/7 from an off site server located on rackspace.com's network. We keep the billing software and main site on this server as well to ensure that we are always reachable incase something were ever to happen to NAC however we have the utmost confidence in the datacenter that we are located in.

Our packages range in price from $8.95 to $26.95. We do our best to offer a wide range of packages to suit the needs of anyone from a small website all the way up to a large internet forum.

Features : Personal Package
Monthly Price : $8.95
Storage Space : 100MB
Bandwidth : 4000MB
POP Accounts : 50
Dedicated IP : no
MySQL DB's : 2
Mailing Lists : 0
FTP Accounts : 1
Anonymous FTP : no

Features : Business Package
Monthly Price : $14.95
Storage Space : 250MB
Bandwidth : 8000MB
POP Accounts : 100
Dedicated IP : no
MySQL DB's : 4
Mailing Lists : 2
FTP Accounts : 5
Anonymous FTP : yes

Features : Corporate Package
Monthly Price : $19.95
Storage Space : 500MB
Bandwidth : 12000MB
POP Accounts : 250
Dedicated IP : no
MySQL DB's : 6
Mailing Lists : 5
FTP Accounts : 15
Anonymous FTP : yes

Features : Elite Package
Monthly Price : $26.95
Storage Space : 750MB
Bandwidth : 18000MB
POP Accounts : 500
Dedicated IP : yes
MySQL DB's : 8
Mailing Lists : 15
FTP Accounts : 25
Anonymous FTP : yes

To get more information regarding our packages or to place an order, visit:
http://www.effectonline.com/packages.html
If you have any questions about what we are offering feel free to post it here or contact me via one of the following ways:

Email: sales@effectonline.com
ICQ: 5995550
AIM: EffectLLC

Cheers and have a great day!

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From your website:

>>Max of 40 SQL connections
As in max 40 simultaneous visitors without using persistent connections?

>>SSH Access (upon verification only, requires copy of valid
>>drivers license to be sent)
Do what now? Congrats - this is funnies thing I've hear for past 15 minutes.

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The WebHost Manager Interface allows Web Hosting companies to control the accounts on their servers. Through WebHost Manager you can add/remove accounts on a server, park or point domains, control bandwidth, disk space, and more.

How does that work with "we decided ... we would only offer virtual hosting"?
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As far as the 40 Max connections goes yes, if 40 people were trying to post at once that would use up all 40 connections, but since that is a very high number and the likelihood of hitting it isn't that great its a decent middle ground to keep a balance of resource usage. I've had forums in the past easily have 60, 70, 80+ people visiting at once and not run into any issue.

Well, if you find it funny then I'm glad for you I suppose. I do it as a security measure, I personally have ran or worked for many hosts in the past, and while I do understand that even without ssh a server can be compromised I prefer to know who has that level of access, but if you'd like to offer an alternative form of identification or different way to request SSH access then I’m all ears.

As far as your last point, the virtual hosting and the licensing of Cpanel are two different things. As well as virtual hosting we offer contract based systems administration and we handle support and licensing for clients who may require Cpanel. With regard to the statement you quoted that is in the hosting field. So I guess you could read it in the context of "we decided ... we would only offer virtual hosting and not reseller packages or virtual private servers".

Well, let me know if you have any other questions, concerns or suggestions

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>>if 40 people were trying to post at once that would use up all 40 connections
Let me flip the coin - I would use up 40 connection if 40 requests were made to any dynamic page in any part of my site. That includes posting and browsing forums, reading articles, searching, buying, chating, looking/updating profile etc etc. And probability of that happening is way more then probablility of 40 people posting a comment at the same time.

>>offer an alternative form of identification or different way to request SSH access
Here's a thought - give them access when they register using the same password as for cpanel. If someone knows that password, they already own the account, no matter with ssh or without.

>>the virtual hosting and the licensing of Cpanel are two different things.
I was talking about WebHost Manager, which, being part of cpanel, is there to help resellers do their job.

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Actually you can't flip the first issue, the limitations are on a per mysql user/db basis. The main reason is that vbulletin as well as other php scripts are open to denial of service attacks, I’ve had instances in where several computers would load url's within vbulletin or other mysql based software in an attempt to open as many apache & mysql connections as possible, by having a limit in place this reduces the risk of an overall server crash and allows reaction time to solve the problem. So your scenario has already been taken into account, but also considering each mysql connection takes only a fraction of a second at best to execute for a site to be that popular it would most likely require more resources (bandwidth/space) than our packages offer so again, that reduces the chance of such an event occurring.

I suppose I could do that, but really it’s just an overall business decision more than anything else. I don't suppose I’ll ever appeal to everyone out there, my goal is just to keep any client I get as happy as possible, if I don't get every client that’s out there, then that’s fine by me. I just do my best to make sure my company can adequately provide what my customers need to give them the best experience possible.

Well, I think your getting a bit confused on that, the section of my site in which your earlier quote came from deals with the actual Cpanel licensing for other server owners, so I was just pointing out that they are both from separate sections of the site. I understand that WHM is a part of Cpanel and I know what it can do, but it doesn't apply in this scenario nor to the virtual hosting services I offer.

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>>the limitations are on a per mysql user/db basis
In your hosting plans one is allowed to have several databases, will max # of sql connection increase too?

You are talking about limiting number of simultenous connections in order to preven ddos attacks, and while this does make sense I still think 40 is too low.

Speaking of cpanel, it is still a mystery for me why would you desribe what it is capable of for resellers knowing that you do not provide reseller account, but that could be just me and may be, just may be, there is a purpose for that.

From what I see so far, we agree to disagree on pretty much every point that had been raised by me here. Oh well, may be someone else will bring some fresh input and we'll come up with the right answer.

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