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nazgulled.net version.2

My new site version (.2) is finally finished wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeee
After a few months of work I finally finish it off... Actually, it were 5 months but of course, I had other things to do, I wasn't just coding my website...

Please go take a look and tell me what you think of the final version
There's a guestbook so leave a message if you wish... and also, you can vote in photos I have taken, they are in the photography section of course. Feel free to take a look around every section on the website...

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Old August 14th, 2004, 03:38 PM
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never mind

anyway, I can't access your site, just get a domain error. ideas?

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I can't understand that... many people can see it, others don't... your not the first one reporting dns problems, but I have no clue what's happening... the site is working just fine...

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i can see it , and it's nice to look at too, you're missing out on a real treat computer.

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i have to agree...

however, it's a shame to see tables, and i would kick off about that, but it's 2am so i'm not in the mood

other than some comments above your doctype, which should be removed, everything else is looking great.

nice one

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what's wrong with tables?

and what's the problem with the doctype? remove the doctype? why is that?

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what's wrong with tables?


Tables are not intended for use with layout, but with actual tabular data. Using DIVs are the way to go.

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It's not the doctype itself. It's the comments above doctype. The doctype is supposed to be on the first line, and all comments should be within the html tags.

The site's looking good, though.

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I can't understand that... many people can see it, others don't... your not the first one reporting dns problems, but I have no clue what's happening... the site is working just fine...

nope... not working for me either
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Old August 15th, 2004, 06:31 AM
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it would be pain in the *** to make that layout with divs and I've read a read document about that thing in tables and I disagree... we have tags, we have simply code at hours hands, the site works just fine with no kinds of problem, I don't see why I shouldn't use tables... for me that's just a geeky thing...

about the comments, it's the script I have to count statistics. the whole site is coded in pgp and only the last line of the code will output the website, however, the script to count the visitors is called in the beggning and it outpust that comments, I'll just take a look at the script and remove the lines that output those comments...

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it try my best to code to the standards set by w3c, if that makes me geeky, then so be it, i have no problem with being a geek. If a geek is someone who codes to widely accepted web standards then most of the folks in here are geeks too.

but it does without question, make my site quicker to load, easier to maintain, and more meaningful to search engines.

n.b. the term geek has offensive connotations when used in certain contexts.

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I didn't know tables were not in conformity with the xhtml standarts... my site is 100% XHTML 1.0 Transitional valid, sO i don't care that thing about div/tables.... it's easir with tables... you say divs are faster? ... weeeee a few 0.05645639ms faster.... who cares about that..

Serioulsy... there are some people I can't understand... I live in a country wich have not that fast connections as some other countries do and I don't think my site, or any other site (mostly mor than 90% of internet sites use tables anywway) slow... they load at normal speed... if I they could load a few ms faster for being in divs, what do I care, it's just some ms is no secs, I won't notice any difference...

I'm not mad at you or anybody else about telling MY site is with tables isntead of divs, you could tell that to any other guy's site and or you could comment that anywhere else and if I saw it there, I was saying the same thing I'm saying here, just so you know I'm not pissed off nor I want to insult anyone... It's just a discussion not related to my website in any form

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I didn't know tables were not in conformity with the xhtml standarts... my site is 100% XHTML 1.0 Transitional valid, sO i don't care that thing about div/tables.... it's easir with tables... you say divs are faster? ... weeeee a few 0.05645639ms faster.... who cares about that..


That's what I used to say, until I became a born-again geek and saw the way.

Tables are perfectly fine if you use them the way they were meant to be used; that is for tabular data, like what you'd use spreadsheets for. One reason they are not good for layout is there are search engine robots that tend to get confused by table layouts (especially when they are inside one-another) and they often look very different depending on browsers. In IE a cell might look one way, but in Safari it might look totally different. This is especially true with widths and borders.

The same could be said about divs, of course, but if you use the CSS correctly, the divs will look much more similar across platforms.

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I still don't agree 100% with you guys about that div/tables... but today I'll give it a try and code the site using divs instead of tables... and see how it goes..

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well... I really tried... but I can't make it... I can't reproduce the same layout with only divs and css... if any of you could make it for me just so I could study how you do it cuz I'm having some difficulties without using tables... just the basic layout...

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