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Old August 23rd, 2004, 10:11 AM
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If someone could give some feedback it would be greatly appreciated. There's something about it, that I just don't like...and not quite sure what it is.

Thanks is advanced.

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Old August 23rd, 2004, 12:25 PM
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Howdy,

First off, and maybe it's just me, but I can't stand that Java console coming up when I load a page. For one, it increases load time to an unnecessary level, even when your page itself is not overly graphics-heavy. So I have to point this out whenever I see a page where the Java applet is not absolutely necessary, as in the case of this site. How about a nice text- or image-based PHP counter? They're free! Just a suggestion.

Big thing on the design is the left-side navigation: white text on light-blue background is very hard to read, especially for your color blind audience.

I love your logo, and the navigation header text on the left side goes with it, but I just think that text in and amongst itself does not convey the sort of professionalism that you'd want on a corporate (or LLC, as it is) web site.

Big thing I noticed on the header was that you used rollover images for non-aliased Arial text with the only change being an underline. How about CSS in a table, and just put the little dots next to the text as a single image? That would increase load-time significantly and save you some major hassles if you ever wanted to edit that stuff.
Also, the header just seems way too big. Maybe shrink your logo a little and then everything will fall into place elsewhere.

Also, I would strongly suggest that you not put an ampersand in a directory name. Ampersands are interpreted as delimeters for URL variables often, and this may screw up older browsers, although I'd be curious to see the results.

Also, just to be picky, your copyright information should probably be centered.

Hope that's not too brutal. I really love that logo though!

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Old August 24th, 2004, 06:50 AM
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Verrrryyyy slow loading (on 128k), that last object is still loading, i would of left by now. Edit: Something still loading, i gave up waiting...

This image didnt display - http://www.hazleventures.com/graphics/g_rollovers/g_all_r21_c2.png

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Change this:
Copyright Hazle Ventures LLC 2004-2005

To This:
Copyright Hazle Ventures 2004

It will fit in the side then and not protrude out like it does now. (It goes to far off the side of the left menu)

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Web Page Speed Report
URL: http://www.hazleventures.com/
Title: Hazle Ventures LLC - Computer Technology Services
Date: Report run on Tue Aug 24 06:48:36CDT2004

Download Times*
Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 234.88 seconds
28.8K 117.54 seconds
33.6K 100.78 seconds
56K 60.55 seconds
ISDN 128K 18.68 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 1.80 seconds

1 153188 FLASH http://www.hazleventures.com/flash/f_index/index_a.swf

DELETE THAT FLASH OBJECT ITS WAYYYY TO BIG!!

Have a look at your site here - http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

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Big thing I noticed on the header was that you used rollover images for non-aliased Arial text with the only change being an underline. How about CSS in a table, and just put the little dots next to the text as a single image? That would increase load-time significantly and save you some major hassles if you ever wanted to edit that stuff.


I somewhat agree, though I think a table is the wrong tag to use as links aren't tabular data. A styled unordered list would be better and can be created to look exactly the same as the current design.

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Why so many images in the sidebar ?
The main text would need a padding.
Lots of people could hate that high pitched sound.

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I somewhat agree, though I think a table is the wrong tag to use as links aren't tabular data. A styled unordered list would be better and can be created to look exactly the same as the current design.


Should I use css (style sheets) or just put them in a table? I really don't like using css 'cause of the different browsers handling them diffrently. In other words how do you do a styled unordered list?

I use dreamweaver. Thanks for the help and review.

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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:42 AM
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Should I use css (style sheets) or just put them in a table? I really don't like using css 'cause of the different browsers handling them diffrently

What "handling them differently?" CSS is about as standard as you can get. NN4.x doesn't handle some of the level 2 stuff overly well (in fact, often very poorly), including the hover pseudo class, but they'll still see your links. Anyway NN4.x is down to around 3-5% now, most of whom are developers trying to break their own sites or the sites of others.

For your left-side navigation, you'll need to do something like this for your stylesheet:

Code:
LI {color:#color1;}
LI:hover {color:#color2;}
LI A {color:#color1; text-decoration:none;}
LI A:hover {color:#color1; text-decoration:underline;}


This will make your list dot change colors onmouseover, and your links will stay the same color but become underlined.
You'll also need to put a <div> around your list and move it over so that there won't be that huge margin.
CSS is a great and powerful thing and avoiding it will only cause you more problems later along.

Hope that helps.

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Tables take lot of time to display and are harder to style up.
CSS is easy, look at that tutorial.

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In other words how do you do a styled unordered list?


I did the job for you.

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I have no idea of what I was even talking about. Massive brain fart I guess. I'll look into the comments you sent. I am currently redesigning the site to incorporate some optimization techinques, and the comments here. Thanks for your help, and I'll let you know when I repost the site. Thanks.

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