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    Ghost Flash player


    Hello, I am trying to uninstall the Flash player (Windows XP
    service pack 3).

    The problem I am trying to solve is videos not starting
    up until the whole video is downloaded. This has been
    going on for about a year, and both Firefox and (whatever
    the Microsoft browser is called..) the other browser
    have the same problem.

    I can randomly fix this by rebooting the computer anywhere
    from 1 to 10s of times. Suddenly, randomly, flash player
    would work properly. I have tried all combinations of
    deleting browser history, cookies, re-installing flash.
    Nothing helps.

    I noticed that when the flash player is acting up, I
    can right click on it to stop the download, but I see
    the internet connection icon still active. That is, according
    to the player it has stopped loading the video, but
    the video is still being downloaded! It's like there
    is some other process that has hijacked the video
    downloading.

    With this new clue in mind, I uninstalled every video
    player I had: Windows media, and FLV. Again I uninstalled
    flash, following the instructions on the Adobe site.
    Still, when I open a YouTube page, some kind of video player
    is opening up, with the same problems as before.

    I can't guess where this video player is on my computer.
    I did a search for all files with 'flash.' 'swflash.' and deleted
    them all. Still the ghost player pops up.

    I have disabled all the Firefox add-ons as well.

    What to try next?


    thanks!
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    YouTube has something that will allow videos to play in some recent browsers (including Firefox) without using any plugins (like Flash).

    There's nothing left to remove.
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    Originally Posted by requinix
    YouTube has something that will allow videos to play in some recent browsers (including Firefox) without using any plugins (like Flash).

    There's nothing left to remove.
    Great, thanks requinix. So I have spent the afternoon butchering
    my operating system and working video players for nothing.
    What a waste of time. I had never heard of this new YouTube
    feature.
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    It's HTML 5. Audio and video playback are built into the newest HTML standard and some browsers support it.
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    Hmm, well from what you said I tried upgrading Firefox.
    Guess what, it worked first time. The videos start playing
    right away. I can't say for sure that this was the problem,
    because I don't feel like risking closing Firefox and restarting.

    What the heck let's try it...

    Nope, unfortunately it was just one of those random times.
    At least now I know it's not a problem with the Flash player, I
    can try googling for other reasons.

    Has it been about a year since YouTube started using
    this feature of HTML 5?
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    More like 1.5 years, give or take.

    What problem?
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    It's the problem of not starting the video until it's
    completely downloaded. If you start the browser,
    and there is no play delay when you download a video,
    then the problem will not happen -ever- while the
    browser is open.

    Once you close the browser, the next time you open
    it chances are that the problem is back. Then you have
    to shut down the computer and restart, until you get
    the videos to start playing right away again.
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    Is it only YouTube or does it do that with other sites?
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    It does it on other sites as well... I think.
    I like to listen to archived radio programs, and
    it happens with those as well, which are audio only.

    I just remembered something, also files. Usually when
    you download a file you get right away a pop-up that
    asks you where you want to save the file. When the problem
    happens with the videos, you will also have a problem
    downloading files. You don't get the file 'save to' pop-up
    until the file is completely downloaded.

    One more thing I just remembered, it does not happen
    if I start windows in safe mode.
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    Have you tried with your virus scanner and/or firewall disabled?
    How about with other browsers?
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    Hi, yes it's the same thing with firewall and antivirus off.
    The Microsoft browser does the same thing.

    This morning I uninstalled the Flash player again and installed
    a fresh copy of Firefox. It didn't help, but here are some picks
    of what is going on (with no flash player installed):

    On YouTube with Firefox browser:
    When video is first loaded

    After right-clicking on the video it shows two pop-up menus

    After clicking 'Show controls' on the top pop-up
    The top pop-up menu goes away, a pause button appears,
    and there are now 2 spinning things in the middle.

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